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Dec.  31, 2007

 

Herbert Holmes motioned to change;  C. Ranch Class, 2-c to read - All Ranch dogs earn lifetime points using the same point system as Dog of the Year points and are required to move to a higher class when 35 points are accumulated seconded by Emil Luedecke.  Motion passed

                Gary Payne, yes                                   Dal Lamphere, no

                Rita Crane, yes                                     E.B. Raley, no

                Emil Luedecke, yes

                Chris Thomson, yes

                Herbert Holmes, yes

                               

Francis Raley, Jan. 1, 2008

 

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Dec.  31, 2007

 

Kay Stephens motioned to put the cattle dog rules as approved by the board in effect for the 2008 season, seconded by Dal Lamphere.

Motion passed.

                Chris Thomson, yes                            Rita Crane, no

                Herbert Holmes, yes                           Gary Payne, no

                Dal Lamphere, yes                               E.B. Raley, no

                Red Oliver, yes                                     Emil Luedecke, no

                Kay Stephens, yes

 

Francis Raley, Jan. 1, 2008

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Dec.  28, 2007

 

Dal Lamphere motioned “Rule changes and/or new rules made during the trial year will go into effect 30 days after the rule change is approved, unless the change will affect year end issues such as DOY, lifetime points or handler status. In those cases the rule will go into effect with the first trial of the next trial season, seconded by Kay Stephens.  Motion passed

            Rita Crane, yes                         E.B. Raley, no

            Gary Payne, yes

            Emil Luedecke, yes

.           Herbert Holmes, yes

             Red Oliver, yes

 

Francis Raley, Dec. 31, 2007

 

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Dec. 28, 2007

 

After a lengthy discussion Dal Lamphere motioned;   DOG OF THE YEAR: Both fully judged Open field trials and fully judged Arena trials will award DOY points, Lifetime points and Qualify dogs for the TSDA Finals. Timed trials, whether Open field or Arena, will qualify dogs for the TSDA finals, award Lifetime points, and award DOY points. There shall be no restriction on the number of trials that a dog may run in to earn DOY points. Dog can receive points from a maximum of three (3) goes at any given trial. At the Finals Trial, perpetual trophies for Dog of the Year are awarded in each class with the exception of the Youth Class. An asterisk on these trophies identifies American bred dogs, seconded by Kay stephens.  Motion passed

                E.B. Raley, yes                                     Gary Payne, no

                Herbert Holmes, yes                           Emil Luedecke, no

                Chris Thomson, yes                                           

                Dal Lamphere, yes

                Rita Crane, yes

 

Francis Raley, Dec. 31, 2007

 

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Dec. 18, 2007
 

Dal Lamphere motioned the  following be the wording and rule(s) for the Novice class, seconded by Red Oliver.

                                                                   NOVICE CLASS:
1. PURPOSE

a. To give a beginning level handler and dog the experience necessary to be competitive at a higher level.

2. HANDLER

a. a Novice handler is any beginning level handler who has not previously competed in the Ranch, Open Ranch, Nursery or Open classes worldwide.

b. a Novice handler may earn no more than 28 points (whether with one dog or a combination of dogs) before being required to move to a higher class.

3. DOG

a. A Novice dog is any dog that has not competed in a Ranch, Open Ranch, Nursery or Open class worldwide.

b. A Novice dog may earn no more than 28 points before being required to move to a higher class.

c. A Novice handler, under the following provisions, may move a dog from the Ranch class to the Novice class:

1. the handler both owns and runs the dog;

2. Once the dog earns 14 points it is no longer eligible to compete in the Novice class;

A. Should the dog move back to the Ranch class, it retains all previously accumulated Ranch points toward compulsory advancement.

 

Motion Passed

                Dal Lamphere, yes              Emil Luedecke, yes             Gary Payne, no                    Red Oliver, yes

                Herbert Holmes, yes           E.B. Raley, yes

 

Francis Raley,  Dec. 24, 2007

 

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Dec.  18, 2007, TSDA/TCDA Forum

 

The Texas Cattle Dog Committee held their first meeting November 17, 2007 at Big Lake, Texas. All of the members were present with the exception of one who was unable to attend.

The committee discussed several items we feel will help the cattle dog trials and the finals.

As everyone knows, cattle charges are going up and cattle are getting harder to find. The following changes in the rules were discussed and motions were made and seconded. They were voted on by the committee members and passed by majority. We submit these changes to the board of directors for their consideration and approval.

Listed below are the proposals and a brief explanation as to why we feel this will be of help in the future.

1. If a handler and dog places either 1st. or 2nd. for the dog of the year points in the Novice or Pro Novice Class they must move up to the next class the next year . We fill this will help balance the number of entries in the Open and Pro Novice Classes. As it is now the Pro Novice Class has about twice the entries as the Open Class. Sometime even more. We have to have fresh cattle for the Open Class the first day. We have to take time between the Open and Pro Novice Class to run the other cattle through, to keep things fair or some Pro Novice Handlers will draw fresh cattle and others will draw cattle that have been worked through the course once.  For instance, we had to take time between the Open Class and the Pro Novice Class at the finals this year to work 24 head of cattle through to keep this even and fair. If we can get these classes to start to balance out more we can get by with fewer cattle. We also feel that if a dog and handler can place 1st. or 2nd. in the Novice or Pro Novice dog of the year points, they are ready to move up.

2. Drop the Lifetime Points but retain the dog of the year points.  If the first recommended rule is passed, there will be no reason to keep the Lifetime Points on cattledogs.

3. As the present rule states, a Novice Handler may purchase a Pro Novice Dog and show that dog in the Novice Class. We would like a change in this rule to state that a Novice handler can purchase an Open or Pro Novice dog and show him in the Novice Class.  We feel that a Novice Handler may not get discouraged and stop trialing as we have had some do in the past with green dogs.


4. The timekeepers will act as observers at the Texas Cattle Dog Finals with the cattle dog committee members available for any assistance needed. The three timekeepers spending the majority of their time observing of keeping time will be paid $50.00 each per day.

All of the above were passed by a majority.

The committee respectfully submits the changes to the Board of Director's for consideration and approval.

E.B. Raley motioned to accept the Cattledog  proposal, seconded by Herbert Holmes.  Motion passed.

                Gary Payne, yes                   Dal Lamphere, yes              Red Oliver, yes                     Chris Thomson, yes                    Herbert Holmes, yes           E.B. Raley, yes

  

Francis Raley, Dec. 18, 2007

 

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TSDA/TCDA Forum,  Dec. 10, 2007

 

After a lengthy discussion on Ranch and Novice Classes Dal Lamphere motioned to separate the Ranch Class and the Novice Class so they are two totally separate classes with different qualifications and different point systems for compulsory advancement, seconded by Herbert Holmes.   Motion passed.

 

                Herbert Holmes, yes           E.B. Raley, yes                     Emil Luedecke, yes             Dal Lamphere, yes

                Chris Thomson, yes            Gary Payne,  yes           

 

Francis Raley,  Dec. 10, 2007

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TSDA/TCDA B/D Minutes

 

Board of Directors  Minutes, Big Lake, Tx.

Nov. 17, 2007

 

Directors present:  Kay Stephens, E.B. Raley, Herbert Holmes, Emil Luedecke, Red Oliver, Rita Crane, Dal Lamphere, Gary Payne.

Director not present:  Chris Thomson

 

President Kay Stephens called a short Board of Directors meeting to order immediately after the 2007 Annual Meeting.

First discussion was on 2008 Triple Crown trials.  Rita Crane moved for the Sheffield, Zephyr and Armadillo trials to be 2008 Triple Crown trials, seconded by Emil Luedecke.  Motion passed.

 

Emil reported that contact had been made with Gene Perry of Ozona for the 2008 Sheep Finals.  He said they had a good source for sheep, location of trial and seemed receptive to having the finals.  The finals have been held  in Ozona in the past and would be the same location for 2008.

 

Francis said she Terry DeBusk had spoken with a town in her area about hosting the finals.

 

Emil motioned for April 15, 2008 deadline for receiving sheep bid for 2008, seconded by Rita Crane.  Motion passed.

 

Emil motioned to adjourn.

 

Francis Raley, Nov. 17, 2007

 

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The following recommendations  was present to the TSDA/TCDA Board of Directors by the Violations Committee. 

 

To: TSDA/WTSDA Directors

Recap and recommendations of Violations Committee pertaining to incident related to Cattle Dog Trial help at Pampa, Texas June 16, 17, 2007 sponsored by Mr. Woody Shettel.

TSDA/WTSDA rules violations surrounding the trial are as follows according to information supplied to committee:
1. Failure to pay sanctioning fees to WTDA/TCDA and USBCHA.
2. Violation of premium distribution as advertised on TSDA website. “Premium money schedule page 15 Rules and Guidelines” lays out distribution of premium money unless otherwise advertised. This committee understands that sponsor decided to change premium distribution without notifying secretary or competitors.
3. TCDA/WTSDA was not involved in negotiations for livestock contract, agreements, etc., however, we understand Mr. Shettel, failed to pay livestock contractor for use of cattle as agreed. TSDA/WTSDA has no responsibility related to that failure. They do, however, regard this action as a reflection of integrity of both Associations.
After careful consideration the committee recommends the following course of action:
1. Suspend Mr. Shettel’s membership and remove him from any responsibility to WTSDA and TSDA and their committees.
2. Require Mr. Shettel to pay association fees.
3. The committee recommends that trial hosts be cognizant of Mr. Shettel’s departure and should not allow him to enter TSDA/WTSDA sanctioned trials to avoid disciplinary action until such time as restitution is complete.

This information will be posted on web sites.

Committee: E.B. Raley, chairperson
Larry Burkes
Herbert Holmes.

With no further action required committee is disbanded.

 

Herbert Holmes moved to accept the committee  recommendation and put that recommendation  into action, seconded by Emil Luedecke.  Motion passed.

            E.B. Raley, yes             Herbert Holmes, yes                Emil Luedecke

            Eleno Montemayor       Rita Crane, yes                         Gary Payne      

 

Francis Raley, Aug. 23, 2007

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June 21, 2007

 

Kay asked for discussion on a class being added to a trial that was not advertised beforehand.

 

After a discussion E.B.  moved that all sanctioned classes must be published in newsletter/web site no later than 14 days prior to trial, seconded by Herbert Holmes.  After further discussion the motion was amended by E.B. and Red Oliver to read  Add the following to Rule II-J: " For a class or trial to count as a TSCDA sanctioned trial and receive TSDCA DOY or Lifetime points, it must be advertised in the TSCDA newsletter or website at least 14 days prior to the date of the trial or class. The trial host has the option of adding additional classes after the 14 day period but these classes will not be considered to be sanctioned and cannot be counted towards TSCDA DOY or lifetime points, nor can these scores or points be added into the scores or points from a sanctioned class."  Motion passed      Forum vote taken. 

                Gary Payne – yes                                Eleno Montemayor - yes

                E.B. Raley – yes                                  Red Oliver - yes

                Rita Crane – yes                                  Emil Luedecke - yes

                Herbert Holmes – yes

 

Francis Raley,  June 21, 2007

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April 2, 2007

Gary Payne motioned to amend Section VI, D-4 to read as follows, All Cattle used in the TCDA finals must be exposed to dogs prior to the first go-round, seconded by Rita Crane.  Motion passed.

            E.B. Raley, no                                Gary Payne, yes                   Eleno Montemayor, yes

            Red Oliver, no                                Rita Crane, yes                    Chris Thomson, yes

            Herbert Holmes, no                       Emil Luedecke, yes            

 Francis Raley, April 29, 2007

 

March 21, 2007

 

TSDA/TCDA Directors had a discussion of setting of courses at the Texas Stock Shows.  Emil Luedecke motioned to form a different committee for each stockshow and let them set up the course and assign the Judge and Course Director, seconded by Herbert Holmes.  The motion to set up a livestock show committee passes.

Forum vote taken:

 

            E.B. Raley, yes                    Emil Luedecke, yes            Herbert Holmes, yes

            Rita Crane, yes                   Gary Payne, yes                  Red Oliver, yes

 

Kay appointed Rita Crane as chairperson of the committee.  It will be left up to Rita how to manage the details of each show as long as she keeps the board informed of her decisions.

 Francis Raley,  April  19, 2007

 


March 7, 2007


TSDA/TCDA received an updated bid from Big Lake Chamber of Commerce on March 7, 2007.

 The Big Lake Classic
Texas State Championship Finals Proposal, Big Lake, Texas
November 16-18, 2007
The Big Lake Chamber of Commerce is very excited to present a proposal for 2007
Texas State Sheep and Cattle Dog Championships. In keeping with the prior years, the
event will be held the third weekend in November.
Since the host committee changed from the Economic Development to the Chamber of
Commerce, the proposal will be different in some areas than in the past. Francis Raley
and I have discussed the changes, and they are outlined in the proposal below.
1. Big Lake will provide the park grounds and activity center buildings
2. Big Lake will provide the fencing, pens and gates to transform the 40-acre park into the appropriate venue.
3. Big Lake will provide premium monies of $1,500.00 for the sheep, and $500.00 or the cattle.
4. Big Lake will provide a PA system and tables for judges, clerks, or other personnel.
5. Big Lake will provide advertisement of the event through various media outlets
6. Big Lake will provide food vendors and arts/craft exhibitors for the duration of the event.
7. Big Lake can provide the hamburger reception and banquet meal arrangements, if desired. It will be necessary,
however, to charge your participants on a “per person” basis.
8. Big Lake will provide the decorations for the reception and banquet.
9. Big Lake reserves the right to charge admission to the event, if we so choose.

The TSDA will be required to furnish the appropriate livestock. For the November trials,
we have been successful in obtaining the sheep via donations. The cattle will be the sole
responsibility of the TSDA, however.
The association will be responsible for any crippled or maimed livestock for the fair
market value.
As you are aware, we have two motels, The Derrick Inn and the Mustang Motel for a
total of 55 rooms. Additional rooms can be found in Ozona and Rankin, if needed. The
park amenities include 150 RV Hook-ups that include water, electricity, and dump station
for $10.00 per day.
Sponsorship of the event could be the dual responsibility of the TSDA and the Chamber
of Commerce. We feel that a corporate sponsor would benefit everyone involved. Danny
Monzingo and the Chamber of Commerce is working on a few leads in the area. We
would appreciate any leads/ideas from the TSDA in this area. If a corporate sponsor is
found, some modifications to the proposal could be in order.
The Big Lake Classic has become somewhat of a tradition in Big Lake, and we certainly
want to carry on that tradition. We hope that you will return to Big Lake for many years
to come. We look forward to your decision.
If you have any questions or concerns regarding our proposal, please feel free to contact
Debbie Rockwell at the number listed below.
Thank you.
Big Lake Chamber of Commerce, P.O. Box 905, Big Lake, TX 76932, (325) 884-2980
blcoc@verizon.net

 

Kay reported that Danny stopped by Ron's trial. Several of the directors were there to visit with him. This is my understanding of my conversations with him about the finals.

1. Sheep will be donated and from same supplier as last year.

2. Cattle are available from same supplier as last year at $14 a head with free shipping. Danny thinks there is a good chance he can get a sponsor to cover the costs, but we should be prepared to pay if not.

3. Danny thinks he has a good line on a sponsor to cover the banquet and his paid help. but is not sure yet.

4. Danny does not think Big Lake will bid on the finals for next year due to changes at the local level.
 

Emil moved to accept Big Lake’s bid on the 2007 TSDA & TCDA Finals,  seconded by Herbert Holmes.  Motion passed.

 

Forum vote taken:


            E.B. Raley, yes                   Emil Luedecke, yes             Red Oliver, yes

            Gary Payne, yes                Rita Crane, yes                   Eleno Montemayor, yes

            Kay Stephens, yes

 

Francis Raley, April 18, 2007

 

 

 

TSDA/TCDA Forum

 

Red Oliver present to the Board the following update for the Cattledog Finals for approval.

 

Red Oliver moved that these rules be adopted and replace the present rules for SECTION VI, D - CATTLEDOG FINALS. Seconded by Rita Crane.   Motion passed.



SECTION VI, D - CATTLEDOG FINALS

To: The TSDA Board Of Directors.

Subject: Voting on the TCDA rule: SECTION VI, D - CATTLEDOG FINALS.

1. To qualify for the TCDA Finals a dog must have competed in at least three (3) sanctioned trials during that trial year.

2. A handler's membership dues as a Participating member or a Family member must be paid before
going to the post in order for that run to receive credit as a qualifying run.

3. Presently there are two (2) go-rounds for each class (Open, Pro-Novice and Novice). In the future, as the number of entries change, it may be necessary to offer one go for each class and a finals in open or some other such change.

4. All cattle used in the TCDA finals should, if possible, be exposed to dogs before the first go-round.

5. The premium money will be divided into 20% for each go-round and 60% for the average. This may change as the program changes. See 3 above.

6. The course will be set up by the trial committee when it arrives at the trial site and has had time to observe the disposition of the stock, the physical attributes of the arena, the location of the bleachers and so forth. The committee may modify the course in each class as they see fit.

7. Handlers will have the full amount of the allotted time to complete as much of the course as they can. There will be no time limit for getting stock across the handler's line

8. If a handler starts to run and doesn't stop or make a definite pause after the second step it will be considered a run and the handler will be penalized ten (10) points for each such infraction of the rules. Hopping will not be considered as running.

9. Course Design.

a. In all classes, the fetch must be completed with the handlers remaining behind the handler line unless a handler chooses to cross the handler line in order to help their dog, in doing so they will forfeit their points for the first obstacle.

b. Each obstacle including the first one must be completed before moving on.

c. The Pro-Novice and Novice classes should, if possible, be offered the same number of obstacles as are offered in the Open class.

d. In general the course difficulty in Pro-Novice should be less than in Open and course difficulty in Novice less than in Pro-Novice. To attain this, obstacle entrances may be widened, extra panels extending the wings may be added, etc. Also, course difficulty for all classes may be made more difficult on the second go.

10. Breaking ties when the handlers have not finished the course in the allotted time will be when all stock have crossed the handler line, completed the first obstacle or have completed the second obstacle. The trial committee will decide on which it will be when they assess the physical attributes of the trial arena.

11. In some instances the course may be such that the handlers must stay behind the handler line for more than completing the first obstacle (in this instance the completion of the second obstacle may be the time line). This will be up to the trial committee when setting up the course.

12. Contestants must not go into or through an obstacle they are working. The judge should make an effort to determine if the infraction was intentional or not. If intentional the penalty will be 10 points. Contestants can reach through and or touch, with hands or staff, any panel, fence, gate or opening. If handlers touch the stock with hand or staff the penalty will be 10 points.

13. If some of the stock goes through an obstacle and some do not, the handler may collect those not having gone through before they mix with the others and they can be put through for full points, but if the two groups mix they all must be put through again before moving on to the next obstacle.

14. If time has not expired and the last obstacle is being attempted and one or more head won't get near the entrance and one or two do go in, the handler may signal the judge that he is satisfied with less than all and will get credit for the number in, or through the obstacle, but he will also be charged with the full allotted time to finish the course.

15. If time has expired before a handler has completed the course the handler will be given credit for the stock that have completed the obstacle being worked.

16. If the judge awards a rerun during a run, the clock will be stopped. The rerun will commence from the same point where the original run was stopped and all points and deductions will stand and time resumed at the place in the run where the rerun was awarded.

 

      Forum votes :

            E.B. Raley, yes              Emil Luedecke, yes                   Herbert Holmes, yes

            Red Oliver, yes              Eleno Montemayor, yes             Gary Payne, No

 

Francis Raley,  March  31, 2007