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Dec. 31, 2007
Herbert Holmes motioned to change; C. Ranch Class, 2-c to read - All Ranch dogs earn lifetime points using the same point system as Dog of the Year points and are required to move to a higher class when 35 points are accumulated seconded by Emil Luedecke. Motion passed
Gary Payne, yes Dal Lamphere, no
Rita Crane, yes E.B. Raley, no
Emil Luedecke, yes
Chris Thomson, yes
Herbert Holmes, yes
Francis Raley, Jan. 1, 2008
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Dec. 31, 2007
Kay Stephens motioned to put the cattle dog rules as approved by the board in effect for the 2008 season, seconded by Dal Lamphere.
Motion passed.
Chris Thomson, yes Rita Crane, no
Herbert Holmes, yes Gary Payne, no
Dal Lamphere, yes E.B. Raley, no
Red Oliver, yes Emil Luedecke, no
Kay Stephens, yes
Francis Raley, Jan. 1, 2008
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Dec. 28, 2007
Dal Lamphere motioned “Rule changes and/or new rules made during the trial year will go into effect 30 days after the rule change is approved, unless the change will affect year end issues such as DOY, lifetime points or handler status. In those cases the rule will go into effect with the first trial of the next trial season, seconded by Kay Stephens. Motion passed
Rita Crane, yes E.B. Raley, no
Gary Payne, yes
Emil Luedecke, yes
. Herbert Holmes, yes
Red Oliver, yes
Francis Raley, Dec. 31, 2007
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Dec. 28, 2007
After a lengthy discussion Dal Lamphere motioned; DOG OF THE YEAR: Both fully judged Open field trials and fully judged Arena trials will award DOY points, Lifetime points and Qualify dogs for the TSDA Finals. Timed trials, whether Open field or Arena, will qualify dogs for the TSDA finals, award Lifetime points, and award DOY points. There shall be no restriction on the number of trials that a dog may run in to earn DOY points. Dog can receive points from a maximum of three (3) goes at any given trial. At the Finals Trial, perpetual trophies for Dog of the Year are awarded in each class with the exception of the Youth Class. An asterisk on these trophies identifies American bred dogs, seconded by Kay stephens. Motion passed
E.B. Raley, yes Gary Payne, no
Herbert Holmes, yes Emil Luedecke, no
Chris Thomson, yes
Dal Lamphere, yes
Rita Crane, yes
Francis Raley, Dec. 31, 2007
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Dec. 18, 2007
Dal Lamphere motioned the following be the wording and rule(s) for the Novice class, seconded by Red Oliver.
NOVICE CLASS:
1. PURPOSE
a. To give a beginning level handler and dog the experience necessary to be
competitive at a higher level.
2. HANDLER
a. a Novice handler is any beginning level handler who has not previously
competed in the Ranch, Open Ranch, Nursery or Open classes worldwide.
b. a Novice handler may earn no more than 28 points (whether with one dog or a
combination of dogs) before being required to move to a higher class.
3. DOG
a. A Novice dog is any dog that has not competed in a Ranch, Open Ranch, Nursery
or Open class worldwide.
b. A Novice dog may earn no more than 28 points before being required to move to
a higher class.
c. A Novice handler, under the following provisions, may move a dog from the
Ranch class to the Novice class:
1. the handler both owns and runs the dog;
2. Once the dog earns 14 points it is no longer eligible to compete in the
Novice class;
A. Should the dog move back to the Ranch class, it retains all previously
accumulated Ranch points toward compulsory advancement.
Motion Passed
Dal Lamphere, yes Emil Luedecke, yes Gary Payne, no Red Oliver, yes
Herbert Holmes, yes E.B. Raley, yes
Francis Raley, Dec. 24, 2007
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Dec. 18, 2007, TSDA/TCDA Forum
The Texas
Cattle Dog Committee held their first meeting November 17, 2007 at Big Lake,
Texas. All of the members were present with the exception of one who was unable
to attend.
The committee discussed several items we feel will help the cattle dog trials
and the finals.
As everyone knows, cattle charges are going up and cattle are getting harder to
find. The following changes in the rules were discussed and motions were made
and seconded. They were voted on by the committee members and passed by
majority. We submit these changes to the board of directors for their
consideration and approval.
Listed below are the proposals and a brief explanation as to why we feel this
will be of help in the future.
1. If a handler and dog places either 1st. or 2nd. for the dog of the year
points in the Novice or Pro Novice Class they must move up to the next class the
next year . We fill this will help balance the number of entries in the Open and
Pro Novice Classes. As it is now the Pro Novice Class has about twice the
entries as the Open Class. Sometime even more. We have to have fresh cattle for
the Open Class the first day. We have to take time between the Open and Pro
Novice Class to run the other cattle through, to keep things fair or some Pro
Novice Handlers will draw fresh cattle and others will draw cattle that have
been worked through the course once. For instance, we had to take time between
the Open Class and the Pro Novice Class at the finals this year to work 24 head
of cattle through to keep this even and fair. If we can get these classes to
start to balance out more we can get by with fewer cattle. We also feel that if
a dog and handler can place 1st. or 2nd. in the Novice or Pro Novice dog of the
year points, they are ready to move up.
2. Drop the Lifetime Points but retain the dog of the year points. If the first
recommended rule is passed, there will be no reason to keep the Lifetime Points
on cattledogs.
3. As the present rule states, a Novice Handler may purchase a Pro Novice Dog
and show that dog in the Novice Class. We would like a change in this rule to
state that a Novice handler can purchase an Open or Pro Novice dog and show him
in the Novice Class. We feel that a Novice Handler may not get discouraged and
stop trialing as we have had some do in the past with green dogs.
4. The timekeepers will act as observers at the Texas Cattle Dog Finals with the
cattle dog committee members available for any assistance needed. The three
timekeepers spending the majority of their time observing of keeping time will
be paid $50.00 each per day.
All of the above were passed by a majority.
The committee respectfully submits the changes to the Board of Director's for
consideration and approval.
E.B. Raley motioned to accept the
Cattledog proposal, seconded by Herbert Holmes. Motion passed.
Gary Payne, yes Dal Lamphere, yes Red Oliver, yes Chris Thomson, yes Herbert Holmes, yes E.B. Raley, yes
Francis Raley, Dec. 18, 2007
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TSDA/TCDA Forum, Dec. 10, 2007
After a lengthy discussion on Ranch and Novice Classes Dal Lamphere motioned to separate the Ranch Class and the Novice Class so they are two totally separate classes with different qualifications and different point systems for compulsory advancement, seconded by Herbert Holmes. Motion passed.
Herbert Holmes, yes E.B. Raley, yes Emil Luedecke, yes Dal Lamphere, yes
Chris Thomson, yes Gary Payne, yes
Francis Raley, Dec. 10, 2007
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TSDA/TCDA B/D Minutes
Board of Directors Minutes, Big Lake, Tx.
Nov. 17, 2007
Directors present: Kay Stephens, E.B. Raley, Herbert Holmes, Emil Luedecke, Red Oliver, Rita Crane, Dal Lamphere, Gary Payne.
Director not present: Chris Thomson
President Kay Stephens called a short Board of Directors meeting to order immediately after the 2007 Annual Meeting.
First discussion was on 2008 Triple Crown trials. Rita Crane moved for the Sheffield, Zephyr and Armadillo trials to be 2008 Triple Crown trials, seconded by Emil Luedecke. Motion passed.
Emil reported that contact had been made with Gene Perry of Ozona for the 2008 Sheep Finals. He said they had a good source for sheep, location of trial and seemed receptive to having the finals. The finals have been held in Ozona in the past and would be the same location for 2008.
Francis said she Terry DeBusk had spoken with a town in her area about hosting the finals.
Emil motioned for April 15, 2008 deadline for receiving sheep bid for 2008, seconded by Rita Crane. Motion passed.
Emil motioned to adjourn.
Francis Raley, Nov. 17, 2007
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The following recommendations was present to the TSDA/TCDA Board of Directors by the Violations Committee.
To: TSDA/WTSDA
Directors
Recap and recommendations of Violations Committee pertaining to incident related
to Cattle Dog Trial help at Pampa, Texas June 16, 17, 2007 sponsored by Mr.
Woody Shettel.
TSDA/WTSDA rules violations surrounding the trial are as follows according to
information supplied to committee:
1. Failure to pay sanctioning fees to WTDA/TCDA and USBCHA.
2. Violation of premium distribution as advertised on TSDA website. “Premium
money schedule page 15 Rules and Guidelines” lays out distribution of premium
money unless otherwise advertised. This committee understands that sponsor
decided to change premium distribution without notifying secretary or
competitors.
3. TCDA/WTSDA was not involved in negotiations for livestock contract,
agreements, etc., however, we understand Mr. Shettel, failed to pay livestock
contractor for use of cattle as agreed. TSDA/WTSDA has no responsibility related
to that failure. They do, however, regard this action as a reflection of
integrity of both Associations.
After careful consideration the committee recommends the following course of
action:
1. Suspend Mr. Shettel’s membership and remove him from any responsibility to
WTSDA and TSDA and their committees.
2. Require Mr. Shettel to pay association fees.
3. The committee recommends that trial hosts be cognizant of Mr. Shettel’s
departure and should not allow him to enter TSDA/WTSDA sanctioned trials to
avoid disciplinary action until such time as restitution is complete.
This information will be posted on web sites.
Committee: E.B. Raley, chairperson
Larry Burkes
Herbert Holmes.
With no further action required committee is disbanded.
Herbert Holmes moved to accept the committee recommendation and put that recommendation into action, seconded by Emil Luedecke. Motion passed.
E.B. Raley, yes Herbert Holmes, yes Emil Luedecke
Eleno
Montemayor Rita Crane, yes Gary Payne
Francis Raley, Aug. 23, 2007
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June 21, 2007
Kay asked for discussion on a class being added to a trial that was not advertised beforehand.
After a discussion E.B. moved that all sanctioned classes must be published in newsletter/web site no later than 14 days prior to trial, seconded by Herbert Holmes. After further discussion the motion was amended by E.B. and Red Oliver to read Add the following to Rule II-J: " For a class or trial to count as a TSCDA sanctioned trial and receive TSDCA DOY or Lifetime points, it must be advertised in the TSCDA newsletter or website at least 14 days prior to the date of the trial or class. The trial host has the option of adding additional classes after the 14 day period but these classes will not be considered to be sanctioned and cannot be counted towards TSCDA DOY or lifetime points, nor can these scores or points be added into the scores or points from a sanctioned class." Motion passed Forum vote taken.
Gary Payne – yes Eleno Montemayor - yes
E.B. Raley – yes Red Oliver - yes
Rita Crane – yes Emil Luedecke - yes
Herbert Holmes – yes
Francis Raley, June 21, 2007
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April 2, 2007
Gary Payne motioned to amend Section VI, D-4 to read as follows, All Cattle used
in the TCDA finals must be exposed to dogs prior to the first go-round, seconded
by Rita Crane. Motion passed.
E.B. Raley, no Gary Payne, yes Eleno Montemayor, yes
Red Oliver, no Rita Crane, yes Chris Thomson, yes
Herbert Holmes, no
Emil Luedecke, yes
Francis Raley, April 29, 2007
March 21, 2007
TSDA/TCDA Directors had a discussion of setting of courses at the Texas Stock Shows. Emil Luedecke motioned to form a different committee for each stockshow and let them set up the course and assign the Judge and Course Director, seconded by Herbert Holmes. The motion to set up a livestock show committee passes.
Forum vote taken:
E.B. Raley, yes Emil Luedecke, yes Herbert Holmes, yes
Rita Crane, yes Gary Payne, yes Red Oliver, yes
Kay appointed Rita Crane as chairperson of the committee. It will be left up to Rita how to manage the details of each show as long as she keeps the board informed of her decisions.
Francis Raley, April 19, 2007
March 7, 2007
TSDA/TCDA received an updated bid from Big Lake Chamber of Commerce on March 7,
2007.
The Big Lake Classic
Texas State Championship Finals Proposal, Big Lake, Texas
November 16-18, 2007
The Big Lake Chamber of Commerce is very excited to present a proposal for 2007
Texas State Sheep and Cattle Dog Championships. In keeping with the prior years,
the
event will be held the third weekend in November.
Since the host committee changed from the Economic Development to the Chamber of
Commerce, the proposal will be different in some areas than in the past. Francis
Raley
and I have discussed the changes, and they are outlined in the proposal below.
1. Big Lake will provide the park grounds and activity center buildings
2. Big Lake will provide the fencing, pens and gates to transform the 40-acre
park into the appropriate venue.
3. Big Lake will provide premium monies of $1,500.00 for the sheep, and $500.00
or the cattle.
4. Big Lake will provide a PA system and tables for judges, clerks, or other
personnel.
5. Big Lake will provide advertisement of the event through various media
outlets
6. Big Lake will provide food vendors and arts/craft exhibitors for the duration
of the event.
7. Big Lake can provide the hamburger reception and banquet meal arrangements,
if desired. It will be necessary,
however, to charge your participants on a “per person” basis.
8. Big Lake will provide the decorations for the reception and banquet.
9. Big Lake reserves the right to charge admission to the event, if we so
choose.
The TSDA will be required to furnish the appropriate livestock. For the November
trials,
we have been successful in obtaining the sheep via donations. The cattle will be
the sole
responsibility of the TSDA, however.
The association will be responsible for any crippled or maimed livestock for the
fair
market value.
As you are aware, we have two motels, The Derrick Inn and the Mustang Motel for
a
total of 55 rooms. Additional rooms can be found in Ozona and Rankin, if needed.
The
park amenities include 150 RV Hook-ups that include water, electricity, and dump
station
for $10.00 per day.
Sponsorship of the event could be the dual responsibility of the TSDA and the
Chamber
of Commerce. We feel that a corporate sponsor would benefit everyone involved.
Danny
Monzingo and the Chamber of Commerce is working on a few leads in the area. We
would appreciate any leads/ideas from the TSDA in this area. If a corporate
sponsor is
found, some modifications to the proposal could be in order.
The Big Lake Classic has become somewhat of a tradition in Big Lake, and we
certainly
want to carry on that tradition. We hope that you will return to Big Lake for
many years
to come. We look forward to your decision.
If you have any questions or concerns regarding our proposal, please feel free
to contact
Debbie Rockwell at the number listed below.
Thank you.
Big Lake Chamber of Commerce, P.O. Box 905, Big Lake, TX 76932, (325) 884-2980
blcoc@verizon.net
Kay reported that Danny stopped by Ron's trial. Several of the
directors were there to visit with him. This is my understanding of my
conversations with him about the finals.
1. Sheep will be donated and from same supplier as last year.
2. Cattle are available from same supplier as last year at $14 a head with free
shipping. Danny thinks there is a good chance he can get a sponsor to cover the
costs, but we should be prepared to pay if not.
3. Danny thinks he has a good line on a sponsor to cover the banquet and his
paid help. but is not sure yet.
4. Danny does not think Big Lake will bid on the finals for next year due to
changes at the local level.
Emil moved to accept Big Lake’s bid on the 2007 TSDA & TCDA Finals, seconded by Herbert Holmes. Motion passed.
Forum vote taken:
E.B. Raley, yes Emil Luedecke, yes Red
Oliver, yes
Gary Payne, yes Rita Crane, yes Eleno Montemayor, yes
Kay Stephens, yes
Francis Raley, April 18, 2007
TSDA/TCDA Forum
Red Oliver present to the Board the following update for the Cattledog Finals for approval.
Red Oliver moved that these rules be adopted and replace the present rules for SECTION VI, D - CATTLEDOG FINALS. Seconded by Rita Crane. Motion passed.
SECTION VI, D - CATTLEDOG FINALS
To: The TSDA Board Of Directors.
Subject: Voting on the TCDA rule: SECTION VI, D - CATTLEDOG FINALS.
1. To qualify for the TCDA Finals a dog must have competed in at least three (3)
sanctioned trials during that trial year.
2. A handler's membership dues as a Participating member or a Family member must
be paid before
going to the post in order for that run to receive credit as a qualifying run.
3. Presently there are two (2) go-rounds for each class (Open, Pro-Novice and
Novice). In the future, as the number of entries change, it may be necessary to
offer one go for each class and a finals in open or some other such change.
4. All cattle used in the TCDA finals should, if possible, be exposed to dogs
before the first go-round.
5. The premium money will be divided into 20% for each go-round and 60% for the
average. This may change as the program changes. See 3 above.
6. The course will be set up by the trial committee when it arrives at the trial
site and has had time to observe the disposition of the stock, the physical
attributes of the arena, the location of the bleachers and so forth. The
committee may modify the course in each class as they see fit.
7. Handlers will have the full amount of the allotted time to complete as much
of the course as they can. There will be no time limit for getting stock across
the handler's line
8. If a handler starts to run and doesn't stop or make a definite pause after
the second step it will be considered a run and the handler will be penalized
ten (10) points for each such infraction of the rules. Hopping will not be
considered as running.
9. Course Design.
a. In all classes, the fetch must be completed with the handlers remaining
behind the handler line unless a handler chooses to cross the handler line in
order to help their dog, in doing so they will forfeit their points for the
first obstacle.
b. Each obstacle including the first one must be completed before moving on.
c. The Pro-Novice and Novice classes should, if possible, be offered the same
number of obstacles as are offered in the Open class.
d. In general the course difficulty in Pro-Novice should be less than in Open
and course difficulty in Novice less than in Pro-Novice. To attain this,
obstacle entrances may be widened, extra panels extending the wings may be
added, etc. Also, course difficulty for all classes may be made more difficult
on the second go.
10. Breaking ties when the handlers have not finished the course in the allotted
time will be when all stock have crossed the handler line, completed the first
obstacle or have completed the second obstacle. The trial committee will decide
on which it will be when they assess the physical attributes of the trial arena.
11. In some instances the course may be such that the handlers must stay behind
the handler line for more than completing the first obstacle (in this instance
the completion of the second obstacle may be the time line). This will be up to
the trial committee when setting up the course.
12. Contestants must not go into or through an obstacle they are working. The
judge should make an effort to determine if the infraction was intentional or
not. If intentional the penalty will be 10 points. Contestants can reach through
and or touch, with hands or staff, any panel, fence, gate or opening. If
handlers touch the stock with hand or staff the penalty will be 10 points.
13. If some of the stock goes through an obstacle and some do not, the handler
may collect those not having gone through before they mix with the others and
they can be put through for full points, but if the two groups mix they all must
be put through again before moving on to the next obstacle.
14. If time has not expired and the last obstacle is being attempted and one or
more head won't get near the entrance and one or two do go in, the handler may
signal the judge that he is satisfied with less than all and will get credit for
the number in, or through the obstacle, but he will also be charged with the
full allotted time to finish the course.
15. If time has expired before a handler has completed the course the handler
will be given credit for the stock that have completed the obstacle being
worked.
16. If the judge awards a rerun during a run, the clock will be stopped. The
rerun will commence from the same point where the original run was stopped and
all points and deductions will stand and time resumed at the place in the run
where the rerun was awarded.
Forum votes :
E.B. Raley, yes Emil Luedecke, yes Herbert Holmes, yes
Red Oliver, yes Eleno Montemayor, yes Gary Payne, No
Francis Raley, March 31, 2007